Hi, welcome to Thundarr the Barbarian Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the Talk:Thundarr the Barbarian Wiki page.
Hay man, did you know these wikies have forums? I just posted something in the Watercooler (read it here). They can be quite useful.
Malcadon 02:52, September 17, 2011 (UTC)
I found the name on the Thundarr page at Wikipedida. I have not seen the show in years, so I just used the easiest source of information (that, and the Thundarr the Barbarian Sourcebook for Mutant Future).
Malcadon 00:41, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
No I'm not goneEdit
I'm still here. I have also been busy - damn these real-life responsibilities. ;P
Nice scene-captures with that Mayan pyramid. I dont have access to the show, so I'm limited to what I can pull from my search engine.
By the way, are you sure that it is Caroc-made, as it look like a real ancient Mayan pyramid?
I notice that the user Ookla the Mok is inactive, thus leaving this wiki without an Administrator. So I'm going to make an "adoption request" at Community Central, and I wounder if you're interested in co-administrating with me? Me and an other user - Zeb Ulon - did this on an abandoned Star Frontiers wiki, and the transition was fairly expedient - we co-run it equally. With both of us in-charge, we can spread-out the duties of running this place.
The first thing I will do as (Co-)Administrator, is to add the Live-chat feature. Contact me if you are interested, and I will make the request right away.
Malcadon 09:57, November 12, 2011 (UTC)
- Update: I have looked at the requirements for adoption. Although our high number of contributions is likely a big plus, it looks like they are looking for editors who have been active within weeks of the request, so we need to get cracking. Drawing in more people could be a big plus (and it also make things easier on us). I had advertised this Wiki on my blog, but I don't have a large following, and it easily drowned by the other links on that post. I'm going to advertise this Wiki more directly to the Gamma World/Mutant Future community - which go together with Thundarr, like cheese on a chilly-dog. Looking at Ookla the Mok's red name, one would assume he is a dead account, but I'm going to make contact, just in case.
- By the way, if you need to chat, you can find me here - I'm usually on at midnight, Pacific time.
- Malcadon 04:14, November 13, 2011 (UTC)
With names is good to keep it open-ended and cover a lot of bases. For example, the Pirate Queen Kordon is also known as "Captain Kordon" or just the "Pirate Queen". If I linked "Kordon", "Captain Kordon" and "Pirate Queen" to a single page, that covers a lot of ground with editing (although, a bit much for a one-off character). Much like how "Batman", "Bat-man", "Bat-Man" (note the 'M'), "Bat Man", "Bruce Wayne", "Bruce", "Wayne" and "Mr. Wayne" can be linked to a single character, but these names would crop-up in a Batman Wiki (and then some).
Malcadon 19:46, November 23, 2011 (UTC)
Admin rights Edit
- Thanks! :)--Marhawkman 16:22, November 24, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, it worked! We are co-administrators!!! (damn that was fast)
Oh, I also added live-chat!
- sweet! not that I have any clue what to do with admin rights.... ooohh!!! I can see the "protect" tab now!--Marhawkman 16:21, November 24, 2011 (UTC)
- Hi. Are you talking about the monobook skin? You can upload a new picture for that at File:Wiki.png. The majority of your visitors will see the Wikia skin, which already has a wordmark; that's why I was confused :). -- Wendy (talk) 21:10, November 26, 2011 (UTC)
New Layout (and Technical Matters)Edit
How do you like it? I got tired of the basic layout, so I changed it. I dont know if you can see it, but I made a collage of ruins, and add it to the background (it appears on the side margins of wide screen monitors).
I dont know if you know this, but I'm really skilled at wiki-codes. I have wrote some complex codes to make the templates - the fancy colorful infoboxes used on this site - and trust me, its not easy! I fear that casual fans interested in editing might get overwhelmed with all the technical stuff, so I'm working on a page to get new editors familiarized with editing this wiki - including adding codes and templates in Source mode - as the default Help pages tend to be confusing and hard to navigate through (I had to learn this stuff on my own, while staling and manipulating codes I find on other Wikis). Also, I'm at the limit of my knowledge about the show (unless I cant find the episodes online), so I'm going to put my efforts into the more technical matters of this site.
If you have any questions about editing and stuff, feel free to ask.
Drpryr 03:20, May 4, 2012 (UTC)Hey, I just wanted to say thanks for the welcome. Looking forward to helping improve the database.
Drpryr 00:57, May 8, 2012 (UTC)Well, I was going on how Thundarr described Striya ("shark-woman"), so you can see how I made the assumption there...;)
Same with Ariel about Sholow "The magic imprisoned him in that machine forever!!!" Plus if you look at the slot machine, you'll see pictures of Sholow on it, so that adds to the evidence. ;)
I'll be adding screen caps to to all the stuff I've done soon, too.
- Hmm... Ariel said that? I must have missed that line. Yeah descriptive lines like the one about Striya are hard to take at face value.--Marhawkman 15:19, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, I still am. I've just been overloaded with other stuff lately.Drpryr 22:55, June 16, 2012 (UTC)Drpryr
- Ah, that's cool. I haven't had much time myself.Marhawkman 03:12, June 18, 2012 (UTC)
Every so often, I run a Yahoo/Google image search for Thundarr with keywords like "art," "cel," "cell," "model sheets," "production art" and so on. The model sheets came from Amazon-dot-com - they have a ton of animation cels and model sheets for this and that. Rubberslug-dot-com is also a great place to swipe cels and sheets. If I had the DVD set to Thundarr the Barbarian, or it played on Hulu or Netflix, I would watch it to take good screen-captures of lesser-known characters and items - which this site really needs. Malcadon 00:49, August 18, 2012 (UTC)
- I have no idea who wrote the names. It might have been the artist - Jack Kirby - or one of the production staff - like Spears or Ruby. I cant honestly say who, but I assume it was Kirby. Some of the early miss-spelling form this site was do to how they spell them at Wikipedia. I ran through the synopsis of each episode, listing names and general characteristics. I have not seen the show in years - about 5 or years, on Cartoon Network - so my memories are not too reliable. Malcadon 07:51, August 18, 2012 (UTC)
I have altered the table it many ways: hidden, collapsible, and so on! I checked-out the HELP section, the FAQ, and sampled some well-established wikis, but no... I cant get that table to collapse! If I did, I would would be able to add Mutant Future stats without it dominating the page.
Hell, I'm trying to make a collapsible master table template for my Gamma World Wiki. Basically, the table would note rule-blocks for 6 or so editions of Gamma World, and 3 or so editions of Metamorphosis alpha, but with each edition's rule-block being its own template. Making it all collapsible would allow people to find their preferred edition, unused editions would not show, and--more so--the page would not be a big-ass wall of game-stats. Only if I can make it work!! Malcadon 00:48, August 25, 2012 (UTC)
- Good work! Now I can apply that to my other Wikis. I just fixed the stat block for the Grizzly Snake (one little vertical bar placed between stats ruined the whole code structure, knocking it all down to a few entries that can be seen) and it look really nice. But I will have to readjust the hide template so the title and show/hide bar can be seen (I'll do that later). Malcadon (talk) 20:05, November 8, 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, I made the bar black so the header and [show]/[hide] text would appear. I was toying around with the text and background colors of that template to get the right look, and the white text on black looked good. If you want different colors, I can change them. Malcadon (talk) 05:26, March 10, 2013 (UTC)
Lights... Camera... Magic!Edit
I found you ideas interesting. Trying to define "magic" in the scope of the cartoon is tricky, as they never really explain it, and the technology is as fantastic as the magic itself.
- "Magic is basically any source of energy that does not follow the known laws of physics."
And as noted, even the science in the cartoon defies all known laws, theories and theorems of physics. So that is kinda iffy, but I get your point. Scientists are the sorts that builds high-tech items with a system that can be understood, while Wizards and Sorcerers manipulate strange energy of an unknown source.
- Good point. There is a pretty blurry line between high tech and magic. Like Octagon.... Especially Octagon. I suppose I need to reword that definition a bit. I worded it to include artifacts that were powered by magic.
As for what a "Sorcerer" is, the name would imply magic of an external source — an "invoker" — while the use of internal powers would make them "envokers." This would suggest that there are greater forces at play — Gods, demons, Cthulhuloids, midi-chlorians, or the like.
If I was to make a reboot series, I would have magic tied to something found on (or inside) the rogue planet. A force that awaken the magical potential of wizards and Sorcerers, and who's return from a long elliptical orbit would herald more disasters and greater magical potency! (and its up to our heroes to prevent that)
- I kinda like the idea that guys like Artemus are actually mutants of some sort. Ariel looks normal, but is presumably also a mutant. The conclusion I got from comparing the various "Sorcerors"/"Sorceresses" is that, despite the "standard" definition, in the show, these are beings who don't need any sort of external power source to weild magic. The show had a half-baked explanation for where mutants came from. I kinda like yours better.
A "Wizard" means someone who is wise or smart. They be envokers, or have a better way of invoking, without directly calling on the source of the energy. In most fiction, a Wizard is a wise, old magic-user who is often good, while a Sorcerer are often a wicked magic-user, who have to use elaborate rituals to call forth the source of his power.
- "experienced magic user" works for me. :D
"Witch" seems to have the historic negative connotation of an old, wicked hag, who uses magic to curse or manipulate people (and are known for having the coldest titties of any known creature). It could mean in that context, or it could just be derogatory title.
- ""Witch" seems to have the historic negative connotation of a person who uses magic to curse or manipulate people." that works for me. :D
- yup!--Marhawkman (talk) 19:39, September 25, 2012 (UTC)
I Feel the MagicEdit
- "[W]hat does it need before I make it a page?"
Well, a title. Once you name a page, you can add content at any time. "Magic" sounds simple enough. Other names like "Sorcery", "Wizardry" and "Witchcraft" can be made like any other page, but linked by redirect codes (that is:
As for content, a header is good start. Explain the strange nature of magic in the fiction. Juxtapose the nature of magic, with the equally strange and wondrous technology found in the show. Then note the titles used (wizard, sorcerer and such). Such an article needs not to be fancy, or all-encompassing. Project what you get from it as a viewer, and don't worry if it comes off as a little messy, as we can fine-tune it later.
- As for what you noted. The demon grating the power of "a thousand SORCERORS" seems logical for a Socrerer who supplements their power by a supernatural force. The cannot-cast-spells-do-to-hand-being-tied-together weakness sounds like a logical weakness to all spell-casters (save for magic artifact use, as all you need to do is touch them), as they need their hands free to direct their magical energy. Although, for the most part, I get the impression that the titles (Wizard and Sorcerer) are largely interchangeable, save for Witch — who's definition has been well stated. Malcadon (talk) 01:01, October 1, 2012 (UTC)
I have seen the magic page, and its basically what was debated. As for everything else, I picked up some of the updates (of pages I have on watch) by e-mail and I checked out everything. As much as I what to add to them, I lack the video library to give accurate details. Otherwise, great work adding the info and screen-captures.
- "Seriously, I don't do google searches looking for screenshots. I make my own."
- I'm well aware of that, and you do good work at it. I have done screen-captures for other Wikies, but I tend to forget to shrink them down to a reasonable size (I tend to watch videos at full screen with a 20" monitor). Money is short right now, but If I had the DVD, I would find time to take a day to get as much screen-captures as possible (after watching the whole series, of course). I'm actually quick at it, as I treat it as a tedious chore which lends me to laziness and procrastination, and I do my best work in that manor. Malcadon (talk) 18:28, October 13, 2012 (UTC)
- "Oh yeah, forgot something. Do you think a scope of influence section is a good idea for the wizards?"
- I'm not totally clear by what you mean, but it sounds like a good idea. Malcadon (talk) 18:28, October 13, 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, $30 is too rich for by blood, especially for something with absolutely no effort or added features (commentaries, ad spots, production art, series bible, etc). The Dungeons & Dragons DVD red-box set had all that and more, and it cast about the same. The Legend of Zelda cartoon was cheaper, and did not have as much, but at least they put some effort into it! My only option is to pirate it (damn videos take forever to download with my speed).
As for the old Escape to the New World VHS set, its just a compilation of the following episodes: "Island of the Body Snatchers," "Last Train to Doomsday," "Prophecy of Peril," and "Fortress of Fear." (sited from Rottentomatoes.com) Malcadon (talk) 21:00, October 16, 2012 (UTC)
testy crap Edit
MediaWiki:Common.js Woot! it worked! I think...
I like itEdit
- Oh yeah. I have been doing so much stat-dumping, I forgot about them. XP
- I find this funny in a perverse way. Adding fan-made game-stats to a non-RPG game wiki is highly unorthodox, as folks would easily clusterfuck pages with a ton of stat-blocks from random game-systems. (Which was the primary reason why the hide/show features was so important.) If this site becomes popular enough were people are laying down multiple game stats, we would have to annex them (at least with the major characters) to their own sub-pages, like with art galleries.
- Talk about art galleries, did you see what a Wikia Staffer did to Arial's gallery page? The bitch pulled-down both of the production cells where Arial was topless! It may seem knit-picky of me, but those where *official* production cells from the show, and had as much a right to being on this site as any other stuff we post here (not counting all the "unofficial" junk we post ;P). I find the censorship a lot more obscene then that what those pictures have shown! 9_9 ~ sigh..! Malcadon (talk) 05:26, March 18, 2013 (UTC)
Skorpos, Scorpos, ScorpusEdit
I have no idea? I tend to use info from that Mutant Future supplement and the Wikipedia article. I find that they have conflicting info with matters like spelling. Without transcripts from the show and a lack of production sheets (which I leaded several of), it is hard to guess some of their names, as they have those weird made-up fantasy names, akin to how Hana-Barbara villains sound like medication with laundry-lists of nasty side-effects. Use your best judgement. (Plus, I'm the last person one should go to with advice on spelling anything! LOL) Malcadon (talk) 02:49, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
LORDS OF LIGHTS CAMERA ACTION, AND DEMON-DOCUMENTARIES!!!Edit
I was on the Savage After World blog - the home of the Thundarr the Barbarian Mutant Future Sourcebook - and he posted someone's documentary called Lords Of Light: The Thundarr The Barbarian Story. It provides no new background information on the characters, but they talked about the background of the show's production history. They even show same character studies/sheets that I have never seen before! It is worth checking out!
Oh yeah, I just downloaded the complete series by a torrent site, but they are just low-grade recordings off Boomerang. They are not good enough to "prt srcn", but now with show to take notes from, I can now pull my weight here! — Malcadon (talk) 14:35, August 22, 2013 (UTC)
I will have to get back with you on that, as I'm still cracking into the shows. Its show time! *theme music starts* =D ~ Sweet!
City of EvilEdit
It looks fantastic! The information looks informative and squared-up.
When I get things fully squared-up on my end (issues IRL), I need to get cracking on these pages.